The interesting thing about the Florida Problem…

There is a Burmese Python population in the Everglades…(at least there still was until before this last winter)….but we have solid evidence, based on country-of-origin import records and DNA samples, which disproves the theory of “irresponsible pet owners” releasing these snakes into the Everglades.
The feral population of Burmese Pythons was a product of hurricane Andrew. It was NOT caused by careless keepers.
Yet the media continues to chant that tired, old (false) mantra.
The general public needs to know the facts.

Another interesting study was conducted by prominent a Herpetologist and Professor at CU, Dr. David Chizar. In 1995 I listened to Dr. Chizar’s presentation of this study, while attending the International Herpetological Symposium.

This study looked at the feasibility of re-introducing captive bred “head started” Aruba Island Rattlesnakes (C. unicolor) to their NATIVE habitat, within an area set aside as a wildlife reserve.

They ran into some interesting data.
Comparing the “head started” captive bred snakes with wild snakes they found that the “head started” snakes essentially had “imprinting” problems. They would not be suited to survive in wild. These “head started” snakes lacked the skills needed to survive in their natural environment.

Wild Caught snakes reacted correctly to stimuli:
They sought refuge of heavy piles of rock or similar shelter when faced with a potential predator. (Such as a human or a dog.)

“Head Started” snakes would often associate humans with food….as they were used to receiving feedings from humans.
Inside the cage they would often witness the “head-started” c.b. snakes rubbing their faces on the glass in anticipation of feeding when these snakes saw humans…..or even when they saw Dr.Chizar’s dog!
(Chizar often had his dog in the lab during the evening feeding sessions….and the snakes would associate human or canine presence with the offering of food items.)

I have also witnessed this face-on-the-glass-rubbing in several species of snakes including Elapids, Pythons, Boas, several Colubrid species and also Crotalus species. We often refer to this activity as “begging”.

Wild snakes were able to effectively track their prey items after the bite.
C.B. head-started snakes performed very poorly at this task. They often failed altogether.

Dr. Chizar did a tongue flicks per minute study while the snakes were tracking their prey items.
The wild caught snakes scored off the chart…and rarely if ever got off course while tracking.
The “head-started” snakes scored poorly with low tongue flicks per minute and often got off track….sometimes they were unable to complete the task.

Head-Started snakes have a greater chance of being introduced to (and infected with) fatal reptilian diseases, while in captivity. This further diminishes their chances of surviving in the wild after re-introduction. It also opens more possibilities of spreading diseases to the wild populations.

One cannot help but draw similarities in the data this study revealed to a similar “Recovery Project” which was aimed at the re-introduction of Thick Billed Parrots to Arizona back in the early 80‘s.
Adult birds were selected as the best possible breeding stock… from some of the nations top bird breeders….this was also to provide genetic diversity within the new population of “recovery subjects”.
The birds were banded and tracked.
Every single bird died. The project was an epic failure.
These birds lacked the essential skills needed to thrive in the wild. They were dependent on humans for skills that they were not able to learn from their avian parents. They could not contend with natural predators of the wild.

The vast majority of Burmese Pythons in captivity… were hatched in captivity.
These Pet Burmese Pythons do not have the skills needed to survive in the wild. Escaped pet Burmese Pythons….or even Burmese Pythons “purportedly released” would be lucky to survive past the one year mark, outside of the captive environment.

The Burmese Pythons which inhabit the Everglades National Park
were introduced as hatchling imports. A group of 900 babies that were not yet imprinted to human care or captive conditions.
During Hurricane Andrew these snakes escaped because of the destruction of a wholesale facility near the Everglades National Park. It was the result of a natural disaster which introduced these snakes to the Everglades….It was not the act of irresponsible pet owners or reptile keepers.

So….lets do a little rough math here.
Statistically speaking, 1 Out of 100 hatchling snakes will survive natural predation, human interaction, disease etc. to mature as a breeding adult.
This 1/100th reduction in population leaves you with an animal that has gained a lifetime of the necessary skills for survival in the wild.

Out of 900 snakes that would leave us with 9 surviving adults.
But lets be reasonable here…give them a bonus…lets say that 12 Burmese Pythons out of that group of 900 survive to reach adult breeder age/size.
Now, figure that half of them are males and half are females.
That leaves us with 6 breeder Female Burmese Pythons to start our Everglades Feral Colony.

Above “rough math” is just hypothetical….
Want to know the facts?

Using DNA samples researchers were able to trace the Everglades population back to 5 founding females…all of them were of Vietnam origin.
Import documents reflect that the “Hurricane Andrew 900 Hatchling Burmese”….originated from…you guessed it….. Vietnam.

These introduced snakes were not the result of careless pet owners…they were introduced because of a natural disaster.

Animal Rights Extremists love to perpetuate (and encourage the Media to perpetuate) this finger pointing blame game.
They point to animal keepers as the problem… basically labeling reptile keepers as irresponsible and careless slobs.
This is both unjust and untrue.
As the Media continues to chant the Animal Extremist Mantra, irresponsible, uninformed politicians draft new bills that essentially punish a Nation of people for a relatively minor problem that only exists in the Southern TIP of ONE STATE. A problem that our natural climatic patterns almost solved this last winter! It is a problem that pet owners, business owners and hobbyists did not cause.

I encourage everyone to stand up and be counted.
Follow the USARK guidelines and submit your public comment.
Let other people know what is really happening.
Encourage others to help protect the rights we currently have.

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The Tuesday hearing put some of the first hard numbers on the staggering death toll from a historic cold snap — nine of 10 pythons equipped with radio tracers in Everglades National Park died, according to one yet-to-be published study.

It also cranked up the heat on a simmering battle over a controversial federal proposal to ban the interstate sale and import of large constrictors. Breeders contend the measure would destroy a $1 billion industry and thousands of jobs.

Shawn Heflick, a conservation biologist from Palm Bay and science advisor to a trade group called the U.S. Association of Reptile Keepers, said a cold-weather toll he estimated at 70 to 80 percent proved that federal risk assessments suggesting the snake could spread to other states were overblown.

“This population of pythons cannot expand outside of Florida,” he said. “This is a Florida problem, not a federal problem.”

At least there was no dispute about the Florida part.

Frank Mazzotti, a University of Florida wildlife ecologist who led an assessment of cold effects on pythons in the Everglades, said enough survived to ensure the Burmese wasn’t going to disappear from the comfy, subtropical confines of South Florida — despite cold snaps and intensive eradication efforts.

Nine of the 10 radio-tagged snakes died, including all eight females, but field surveys for several weeks following the cold snap found higher survival rates — nearly 60 percent of 99 snakes spotted by Mazzotti’s team of researchers were alive.

With his study pending publication in an academic journal, Mazzotti — reached after the hearing — said he could not discuss the findings in detail, but said it was clear the cold had seriously knocked back a population of big snakes conservatively estimated in the thousands.

MANY DEAD

“What we can say is that a lot of pythons died and there are way less out there now,” he said.

Without expanded efforts to control them, he said, the snakes are likely to rebound in coming years. Only last week, his researchers documented a rare sighting showing that some of the survivors are well enough to engage in the propagation business.

On a tree island a mile from the Pahayokee boardwalk, Mike Rochford and two other team members discovered a 15-foot-plus female, one of the largest captured in the park, and three males entwined in a pulsing “mating ball.” The biological details are best left at, “What happens in Pahayokee, stays in Pahayokee.”

Beyond South Florida, however, the cold kill has given critics of a federal crackdown on the reptile breeding trade plenty of ammunition.

They argue it exposed flaws in a risk assessment by the U.S. Geological Survey suggesting that the Burmese python, and several others, could potentially spread into other southern and Southwestern states.

Heflick, an advocate for domestic breeders, warned that banning interstate sales was overkill that could worsen the problem. Owners of colorful varieties, some worth thousands of dollars, would suddenly have worthless snakes, he said.

“Alarmingly, many of the millions of now legal snakes could be released in retaliation or in anger and a sense of betrayal from the government,” he said.

HUNTERS URGED

Jorge P. Gutierrez Jr., a Miami attorney and airboater, urged the panel to open Everglades National Park to hunters, who he said could help control the snake.

Mazzotti and other scientists, as well as federal parks and wildlife managers, warned it is premature to use one cold snap to dismiss the threat of the Burmese and other constrictors that the U.S. Department of Interior is proposing to add to a federal blacklist of “injurious” species.

Phyllis Windle, a senior invasive species scientist with the Union of Concerned Scientists, said the country needs to overhaul its entire system for dealing with the python and other invasive species, which she called the “least recognized and most poorly addressed environmental threat of our time.”

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If enacted the new regulations would have required:

1. Cages would not be allowed to be stacked.
2. 24/7 staffing if have more than 50 animals in the facility. See proposed Section 10.40.010(Z). If less than 50 animals, you must have adequate staffing for at least 8 hours a day. If you have more than 50 fish, reptiles, birds, etc., or any combination thereof, you must staff the facility 24/7.
3. Records must be kept on each “Animal”. “Animals” defined in Section 10.08.020 any animal, bird, reptile or fish.
4. Proprietary business information will be available to the public (that could mean Animal Rights groups).
5. The Department may also impose “reasonable conditions” on a breeding license for any non dog or cat breeder.

Click here to read LA County Regulatory Proposal:

http://www.usark.org/uploads/LAcountyRegs.pdf

USARK engaged on this issue at all levels with staff and leadership at LA County Animal Care & Control and Board of Supervisors prior to hearings that were held March 9th & 10th. On March 9th Christine Roscher testified on behalf of USARK. Christine asked that the ordinance be limited to dogs and cats only. As a result The proposed ordinance was removed from the agenda for the LA County Board of Supervisors for March 16, 2010. The ordinance will be re-evaluated by LA County to ensure that animals “other than dogs and cats” are excluded from the requirements, as appropriate.

This information is from Patricia Learned, Executive Assistant to the Director, Department of Animal Care and Control, Marcia Mayeda.

Click here to read USARK testimony in LA County:

http://www.usark.org/uploads/LA%20County%20Testimony.pdf

California Department of Fish & Game: Turtles, Frogs & Heloderma

There will be a hearing to discuss agenda items on April 7th & 8th in Monterey.

Item 21. DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ADOPTION OF PROPOSED CHANGES TO
SECTIONS 671, 671.1, 671.7 AND 703, TITLE 14, CCR, RE: NEW RESTRICTED
SPECIES PERMITS AND REQUIREMENTS. (Helodermas)

Item 25. POSSIBLE ADOPTION OF COMMISSION POLICY, RE: NON-NATIVE FROGS AND
TURTLES (Will not effect Herpetoculture or pets)

USARK has continued to be engaged with the Commission and the Department on these issues. Our Senior California Adviser George Osborn has arranged two high level meetings with the DFG since the hearing last month. We have established USARK as a resource to the Department and have offered our expertise in addressing issues. USARK Director Doug Price will give testimony on both agenda items for the Reptile Nation.

There Is Strength in Numbers… Protect Your Rights! We can win this fight!!

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In my experience, radiant heat is great. It creates an almost perfect heating gradient. My panels are mounted to the top of one side of the cage. The probe from the Johnson Controls thermostat is mounted about four inches up the opposite sidewall. By mounting the probe this way, I can better control the ambient temperatures in the cage. During the day, the cool side of the cage is set to be around 82 degrees. This creates a hot spot that fluctuates between 88 and 94 degrees. It fluctuates because the heating panel is not always on. I feel that this is more natural and mimics what happens in nature.

The problem I have had with RHPs is humidity. I like to keep the cage humidity around 60%. However, I have had the hardest time keeping the humidity at this level. The cage and water bowls dry extremely fast. The cages needed misting almost daily. I really feel this has affected my boa breeding season this year too. The animals were just too dry.

In the thread on RHPs, I mentioned my struggle with keeping up the humidity; but others said they have never had this issue. If that was the case, I figured I must have been doing something wrong and emailed Pro Products. Instead of writing back, Bob from Pro Products called me. To make a long story short, my problem is ventilation. Even though the cages I use are sealed well, they still have a lot of ventilation causing heat and humidity to escape. As Bob mentioned, we cannot fight nature. The amount of humidity in the room is going to affect the humidity in the cage. The more ventilation, the quicker the equalization will be. Since we live in Florida, room humidity is fairly low. During the summer, the air conditioner pulls the humidity from the house. During the winter, there is not much humidity in the air.

So what is the solution? Bob suggested a test. The Boaphile provides ventilation via a small gap around the door. The first thing I did was refill the water bowls and mist down the cage. Next, I took blue painters tape and covered about 75% of the gap. This should stop excessive loss of heat and humidity, but still allow adequate ventilation for the animal. Now it was time to wait and see what happened.

Bingo. The next morning the cage doors were slightly fogged up, so I knew the humidity was high with just a glance. Unless I was using moist cypress mulch as the cage substrate, the cage doors never fogged. The actual humidity was unknown, as the digital thermostat with humidity just displayed “high”.

The next step is to adjust the tape to see what is needed to maintain proper humidity. Once I figure this out, I can use black weather stripping in place of the tape.

I still have not tested the Animal Plastics cages, as they were not as bad as the Boaphiles. The AP cages provide ventilation via slots in the upper back corners of the cages. These can easily be covered and adjusted with the tape.

In all actuality, my issues had nothing to do with the heat source used. It is all about room humidity and cage ventilation. I would have had the same problem no matter my heating source. In the past, my cages were in a temperature-controlled room, where humidity was not a problem. I used flexwatt heat tape to create the needed hotspot.

So if you are having humidity problems in your reptile cages, try the tape test. I think you will be happily surprised.

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She is a beautiful Pastel Orange Tail Hypo Boa or as some call pastel hypo’s, a Scarlet Hypo Boa. This boa has given me two amazing litters and the babies tuned out incredible. That is the main reason I am selling her. I kept some of her arabesque, hypo arabesque and possible super salmon jungle babies.

I did not breed her this season or last so she is more than ready to breed this fall. She is about 7ft or so and weighs around 20lbs. I feed her one or two F/T jumbo rats every three to four weeks and she never refuses a meal.

Here is Marge when she was gravid last:

Marge - 03' Orange Tail Hypo Boa

Look at the links below to see pictures from her two litters. She produced some amazing babies!

• Arabesque Litter

• Hypo from Arab Litter

• Jungle Litter

I will be sorry to see this boa go. However, she will be a great addition to someone’s boa collection!

Visit our Available Animals page to see what we have!

Once the babies start moving around, I will pull them and get a count. Here are some pictures of the litter.

Here is a list of our 2008 boa pairings:

• Het albino x coral albino – (11/30/2007) (POS 2/5/08) (Babies born 5/14/08 – 2 live albinos born but died the next day, 9 slugs) – The good news about this breeding is that the female proved out to be het albino.

• Kahl albino x jungle het albino – (Introduced 11/30/2007) (Possible ovulation 2/5/2008) (NO POS) (Babies born 6/7/08) – We got some sweet albino jungle boas in this litter!

• Dubay pastel x hog cross male – (11/30/2007) (Ovulated 2/15/08) (POS March 1st) (Babies born 6/12/08)

• Big girl (normal) x arab male (added last week of Jan) (Maybe POS March 14 – very small ovulation) (Due June 27th) (slugged out June 21)

• Dubay pastel x hypo – (Did not witness an ovulation or POS) (Babies born 7/1/2008)

• Scarlet hypo x salmon jungle (introduced first week of Feb) (3/16 – starting to see swelling) (POS April 15) (Due July 29th) – I CAN’T WAIT FOR THIS ONE!

Well, that’s it for this year. I did have a few other parings, but they didn’t take. Maybe this coming season.